Developer meeting videos up

Hi All,

All of the videos are now up on the web page, and most of the slides are up (still need to get David's and Evan's slides). Please let me know if you hit any problems.

You can access the content here:
http://llvm.org/devmtg/2009-10/

FYI, one room recorded a screencast and the other was recorded with a standalone camera. This means that you can't see the speakers in one room, which is unfortunate but much better than no video :).

I want to send a huge thanks to Jason Molenda. Not only did he contribute his equipment to record the event, he also collected a tremendous amount of the content, edited the videos, transcoded them and did a lot of other great work. Getting nice videos up takes a lot more work than it seems, and the video quality is very high this year. Thank you Jason!

-Chris

Wow,thanks!

Thanks! I'm waiting for this.

I want to send a huge thanks to Jason Molenda. Not only did he contribute his equipment to record the event, he also collected a tremendous amount of the content, edited the videos, transcoded them and did a lot of other great work. Getting nice videos up takes a lot more work than it seems, and the video quality is very high this year. Thank you Jason!

And his equipment actually worked, unlike some of the in-house gear!

Ciao,

Duncan.

Chris Lattner wrote:

Hi All,

All of the videos are now up on the web page, and most of the slides are up (still need to get David's and Evan's slides). Please let me know if you hit any problems.

You can access the content here:
http://llvm.org/devmtg/2009-10/
  

Is there any chance to see the Clang-related slides?
i.e. State of Clang and OpenCL?

cheers, Simone

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Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:06 AM
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Cc: Jason Molenda
Subject: [LLVMdev] Developer meeting videos up

Hi All,

All of the videos are now up on the web page, and most of the slides
are up (still need to get David's and Evan's slides). Please let me
know if you hit any problems.

This is great, thanks!

You can access the content here:
http://llvm.org/devmtg/2009-10/

I noticed there's nothing up for Dan's talk on ScalarEvolution, nor for Lang's on RA. Are these still going to be posted?

Stefanus

Hi, Chris

All of the videos are now up on the web page, and most of the slides
are up (still need to get David's and Evan's slides). Please let me
know if you hit any problems.

First of all, thanks a lot about all stuff with videos & slides posting.

I'm a bit curious: is there any reason why are other slides / videos
not available (it seems that the ones missing are from Apple folks)?

Unfortunately, we found out at the last minute that Apple has a rule which prevents its engineers from giving video taped talks or distributing slides. We will hold onto the video and slide assets in case this rule changes in the future.

-Chris

Hi Chris,

From: llvmdev-bounces@cs.uiuc.edu [mailto:llvmdev-bounces@cs.uiuc.edu]
On Behalf Of Chris Lattner
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:45 AM
To: Anton Korobeynikov
Cc: clang-dev Developers; LLVM Developers Mailing List
Subject: Re: [LLVMdev] [cfe-dev] Developer meeting videos up

Unfortunately, we found out at the last minute that Apple has a rule
which prevents its engineers from giving video taped talks or
distributing slides. We will hold onto the video and slide assets in
case this rule changes in the future.

That's really too bad. Due to a meeting conflict I was unable to attend Dan's talk on ScalarEvolution, but it was one of the ones I was most interested in seeing given our interest in loop optimization. I also missed the beginning of Lang's talk on future register allocation work, which we also have a keen interest in. I expect a lot of people would be very interested in Nate's OpenCL talk as well, given the current interest in OpenCL and that it's a nice real-world example of LLVM usage.

It would be great if an exception could be made for these somehow. I know there are others interested in seeing them as well who were unable to attend the meeting in person.

Thanks,

Stefanus

Hi Chris,

   it would be good if "the powers that be" could be made to understand that if only Apple employees are not allowed to put up their slides while Apple is employing the core of the LLVM foundation, that this sends the absolute wrong message on openness of the project. It is also totally incompatible with the fantastic work you guys are doing and your tremendous presence on the (non Apple) uiuc mailings lists.

At CERN we had already a number of people questioning the wisdom of basing our developments on LLVM as it is perceived as an Apple thing, that could turn on us at anytime, and this position does not help.

Cheers, Fons.

Chris Lattner wrote:

Hi Chris,

I'm a bit curious: is there any reason why are other slides / videos
not available (it seems that the ones missing are from Apple folks)?

Unfortunately, we found out at the last minute that Apple has a rule which prevents its engineers from giving video taped talks or distributing slides. We will hold onto the video and slide assets in case this rule changes in the future.

can you maybe ask a public relations colleague to post at least the
slides? Even if it takes a while: not having them at all is very bad
publicity for Apple. It proves (esp to people like GCC, but also
colleagues here at CERN) that Apple is the wrong place to host an open
source project, and that Apple is doing its best at diverting efforts
into its proprietary domain.

Don't get me wrong: I really appreciate Apple's efforts in hosting the
workshop and paying 90% of the developers of LLVM!

Cheers, Axel.

Ditto. I've heard this more than once from people here.

                              -Dave

can you maybe ask a public relations colleague to post at least the
slides? Even if it takes a while: not having them at all is very bad
publicity for Apple. It proves (esp to people like GCC, but also
colleagues here at CERN) that Apple is the wrong place to host an open
source project, and that Apple is doing its best at diverting efforts
into its proprietary domain.

I was told that before when setting up a previous project:
http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2006-April/005663.html

Once one is actually involved in the llvm development, it is very
nice. Just avoiding bad PR would probably get more people in.

Cheers, Axel.

Cheers,

Hi,

In my opinion, it's not just about that aspect. Not having openess in an OS project is bad, but in this case, I wasn't able to make it to the meeting, and I've a strong personal interest in clang, and I'd really like to watch the State of clang talk.
Also the OpenCL talk (probably, as I don't know...) contains lots of interesting news about an upcoming technology which will be probably very important for every professional who wants to use parallelism and GPU computing power efficiently (efficient as in less dev time for more performance).
And that's just beside the bad PR which will be (probably) soon picked up by news sites.
Let's hope that the responsible person for this changes his/her mind soon, so everyone can calm down.
Cornelius

But it's more than just PR. When I agreed to be a speaker, I signed off on
having my talk made publicly available. There does seem to be a
double-standard here and that's concerning.

I understand that none of the Apple speakers are happy about this. Corporate
paranoia is the problem here.

                               -Dave

I was really looking forward to watching the presentation about Scalar Evolution, as it is something I use in my ongoing thesis work.

I cannot possibly see how Apple would benefit from this policy.

/ Hans

Chris Lattner wrote:

Chris,

Is this a new policy? I note that there are still videos and slides up from Apple developers - including yourself - from previous dev meetings. If an exception was made in the past, is there a reason why it isn't being made again?

David

-- Send from my Jacquard Loom

G'Day,

As this has turned into somewhat of a partition to 'open source' the
videos, here is my +1.

Cheers,
Edward O'Callaghan.